I can agree, but only so far. Where I have a problem is the phrase "regardless of what the law says". Say you just bought a new house, in a residential neighborhood. Two weeks after your closing, you get a new neighbor. He's just paid top dollar for his new home. But what he wants to do is raise pigs, 30 or 40 of them. Right next door. Naturally, you're not going to be too pleased with this new development. You think, "There's gotta be a law against this." Your neighbor's defense consists mostly of the refrain, "Regardless of the law." People want bacon, people want ham and pork chops. So, fuck it, I'm raising pigs. '" Your property value drops in half. But you have no defense because, "People love bacon, pigs have to live somewhere" Obviously, had you known of this was going to happen, you'd have never bought the property. My point being, one guys, "Regardless of the law", is another guys kick in the nut sack. The law is the only thing that let's you have ANY control of the future. And, as slight as that may be, it's really the only assurance a person can have that things are going to be dealt with in a fair manner. Maybe this should have gone in the rant thread but here it is anyway. I guess you could call me a "Libertarian" and for those of you who don't know what that entails, Google it.
Good point, can't just make up laws to suit one's needs(unless you're a politician).
But it just seems like a passive attitude to take in such a case. Yes there was no law barring it, but maybe the people issuing them should have contacted the parent and asked if they really wanted a gun license for a baby. Maybe go to a superior and see if there is some loophole for them not to issue it etc. It just seems like an apathetic attitude to hand out a gun license to a one year old becasue there is no law against it. And that raises the questions, why the hell ISN'T there an age requirement. But that's another debate I suppose.
btw, I'm not familiar with US gun laws, but don't you need to take some type of safety course before you can buy a gun or have a gun license?
Good point, can't just make up laws to suit one's needs(unless you're a politician).
But it just seems like a passive attitude to take in such a case. Yes there was no law barring it, but maybe the people issuing them should have contacted the parent and asked if they really wanted a gun license for a baby. Maybe go to a superior and see if there is some loophole for them not to issue it etc. It just seems like an apathetic attitude to hand out a gun license to a one year old becasue there is no law against it. And that raises the questions, why the hell ISN'T there an age requirement. But that's another debate I suppose.
btw, I'm not familiar with US gun laws, but don't you need to take some type of safety course before you can buy a gun or have a gun license?
Underage liquor sales are a real problem in Portland. Here's part of an article from the local paper:
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Alcohol sting sheds light on a source of the problem
Portland Press Herald (ME) July 27, 2004
Page A10
An undercover sting operation initiated by the Cumberland County Sheriff's Department has proven to be very worthwhile, not to mention disturbing.
The results of the operation showed that minors were able to purchase alcohol at liquor-selling stores in as often as 80 percent of the attempts that were made.
Also, obtaining a license or permit isn't the same as actually owning a weapon. Yeah, I'd have a real problem with minors carrying handguns. But, as an adult, it's your right to be able to protect your own life. And if your life is threatened, it's comforting to know that you've got the means to defend yourself. Obviously, anyone in their right mind hopes that deadly force will never be needed. It truly does suck that this is what the world has come to. But I'm more of a realist than an idealist. I don't have to like something to accept it. Now it would just be my luck to be the first guy shot by a one year old. Kinda like Maggie shooting Mr Burns.
Underage liquor sales are a real problem in Portland. Here's part of an article from the local paper:
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Alcohol sting sheds light on a source of the problem
Portland Press Herald (ME) July 27, 2004
Page A10
An undercover sting operation initiated by the Cumberland County Sheriff's Department has proven to be very worthwhile, not to mention disturbing.
The results of the operation showed that minors were able to purchase alcohol at liquor-selling stores in as often as 80 percent of the attempts that were made.
Also, obtaining a license or permit isn't the same as actually owning a weapon. Yeah, I'd have a real problem with minors carrying handguns. But, as an adult, it's your right to be able to protect your own life. And if your life is threatened, it's comforting to know that you've got the means to defend yourself. Obviously, anyone in their right mind hopes that deadly force will never be needed. It truly does suck that this is what the world has come to. But I'm more of a realist than an idealist. I don't have to like something to accept it. Now it would just be my luck to be the first guy shot by a one year old. Kinda like Maggie shooting Mr Burns.
When you say underage sales of alcohol are bad in Portland, are the kids that are buying liquor 10 months old or 20 years old? IN the states it would seem you can own a gun license at 10 months, own a gun at 14 years, but fuck don't have a beer until you're 21 son!
I honestly feel sorry for people who live in a country where carrying a gun offers peace of mind that one day it will save your life. Thank god I live in Australia. Shot by a one year old, it would be some sort of poetic comedy right? haha. I put this article up more to highlight the apathy by whatever association hands out these licenses and the apathy shown by the general community and their views on guns in society
When you say underage sales of alcohol are bad in Portland, are the kids that are buying liquor 10 months old or 20 years old? IN the states it would seem you can own a gun license at 10 months, own a gun at 14 years, but fuck don't have a beer until you're 21 son!
I honestly feel sorry for people who live in a country where carrying a gun offers peace of mind that one day it will save your life. Thank god I live in Australia. Shot by a one year old, it would be some sort of poetic comedy right? haha. I put this article up more to highlight the apathy by whatever association hands out these licenses and the apathy shown by the general community and their views on guns in society
to each there own , thats what makes the world go around !!!
the only thing currently you have to worry about in your country is dying for lack of water , it seems to be a fact that there is becoming a major problem .. I guess it could be from living with B,O due to lack of being able to bath due to water shortage .. either by guns or other means were all going to leave this earth in one way or another ..it doenst much matter how or when ..
to each there own , thats what makes the world go around !!!
the only thing currently you have to worry about in your country is dying for lack of water , it seems to be a fact that there is becoming a major problem .. I guess it could be from living with B,O due to lack of being able to bath due to water shortage .. either by guns or other means were all going to leave this earth in one way or another ..it doenst much matter how or when ..
as usual Americans only listen to the part of the news they wish to. Yes their are drought problems in my country but here is a free tip for you, I live in the City. Believe it or not they exist outside the USA. I am right on the coast where rainfall is plentiful! It is in the country where they need the water.
as usual Americans only listen to the part of the news they wish to. Yes their are drought problems in my country but here is a free tip for you, I live in the City. Believe it or not they exist outside the USA. I am right on the coast where rainfall is plentiful! It is in the country where they need the water.
Moron
according to the news global warming is effecting it all , you yourself have quoted global warming in a another thread .. dont take it personal .. geez
according to the news global warming is effecting it all , you yourself have quoted global warming in a another thread .. dont take it personal .. geez
Please tell me what global warming has to do with rainfall? It still rains despite the fact average temps might by slightly higher.
I am not taking anything personal, I am just pointing out idiocy. Do I have baths? No I shower. Redneck
Please tell me what global warming has to do with rainfall? It still rains despite the fact average temps might by slightly higher.
I am not taking anything personal, I am just pointing out idiocy. Do I have baths? No I shower. Redneck
LOl gotta love it
global warming is just that , its the effect of warming the oceans which in turns causes lack of rainfall and climate changes , I have some great articles I will place here for you later so you can educate yourself , i do study the drought In your fair country cause it directly effects the currnet patterns and future patterns that can effect the USA which causes stress to my life blood , my crops .. If the water supply is short in your fair country then Im sure there is rationing of water as several articles reflect , and weather you bath or shower they both take water .. It may rain but if the temperatures are higher then water (rain) will not stay around long and be able to be used or recharge the resevours were your water supplys come from . ITs called evaporation ..
to say that the drought only effects the rural areas is a misunderstood concept , if the food supply is interupted in any way shape or form then we all pay the price , By the prime minister cutting irrigation to the farms he jepardizes the farm economy and therfore the food supply , I realize Australia does import a large supply of food , but they need to export to help offset the costs of bringing in the imports or the change in supermarket prices in the cities will have a great effect on all ..
The lake we get our water from is 29,000 acres and 316 feet deep. Poland Spring water uses the same aquifier. What you'll pay $1.79 a liter for, I get out of the tap. They did a study last year when some "conservationists" were concerned that Poland Spring, which is owned by Nestles, was taking too much water out of the springs. Then it was determined that the amount they bottled and sold amounted to 3/4 of an inch off the top of Sebago Lake. There's so much water in that lake it would be impossible to make even a dent in it.
The lake we get our water from is 29,000 acres and 316 feet deep. Poland Spring water uses the same aquifier. What you'll pay $1.79 a liter for, I get out of the tap. They did a study last year when some "conservationists" were concerned that Poland Spring, which is owned by Nestles, was taking too much water out of the springs. Then it was determined that the amount they bottled and sold amounted to 3/4 of an inch off the top of Sebago Lake. There's so much water in that lake it would be impossible to make even a dent in it.
note to self: pee on the surface of sebage lake...
global warming is just that , its the effect of warming the oceans which in turns causes lack of rainfall and climate changes , I have some great articles I will place here for you later so you can educate yourself , i do study the drought In your fair country cause it directly effects the currnet patterns and future patterns that can effect the USA which causes stress to my life blood , my crops .. If the water supply is short in your fair country then Im sure there is rationing of water as several articles reflect , and weather you bath or shower they both take water .. It may rain but if the temperatures are higher then water (rain) will not stay around long and be able to be used or recharge the resevours were your water supplys come from . ITs called evaporation ..
Explain why this year in the Sydney Metro area we have had above average rainfall? Not everything is explained with theories and science you retard!
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http://www.smh.com.au/news/National/Gunman-at-large-in-Melbourne-suburbs/2007/05/21/1179601326451.html
didnt think gun violence was a problem ?
I never said gun violence didn't occur in Sydney, all I said was I have never felt scared enough to arm myself just to go out at night.
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http://comment.independent.co.uk/leading_articles/article2465904.ece http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_warming these might help educate so you can understand How critical global warming and its effects
to say that the drought only effects the rural areas is a misunderstood concept , if the food supply is interupted in any way shape or form then we all pay the price , By the prime minister cutting irrigation to the farms he jepardizes the farm economy and therfore the food supply , I realize Australia does import a large supply of food , but they need to export to help offset the costs of bringing in the imports or the change in supermarket prices in the cities will have a great effect on all .. http://news.independent.co.uk/world/australasia/article2465960.ece
What reports you may have read obviously are false. The Prime Minister has no say over farm irrigation despite what some hack wrote. I see I have to take the step to ignoring your posts again. I thought you might have mellowed but I see now that once a redneck, always a redneck.
oh and p.s I earn enough to affaord to buy my produce despite any possible rise in cost
Here is actually a sensible spin on the debate if you can be bothered reading it all, it highlights why I don't feel the need to bear arms whilst many Americans do...
Explain why this year in the Sydney Metro area we have had above average rainfall? Not everything is explained with theories and science you retard!
I never said gun violence didn't occur in Sydney, all I said was I have never felt scared enough to arm myself just to go out at night.
What reports you may have read obviously are false. The Prime Minister has no say over farm irrigation despite what some hack wrote. I see I have to take the step to ignoring your posts again. I thought you might have mellowed but I see now that once a redneck, always a redneck.
oh and p.s I earn enough to affaord to buy my produce despite any possible rise in cost
heaven forbid somebody read the sidney morning herald and learn soemthing you didnt know .. I find it funny when you can bash the USa but when somebody finds facts on your fair country which is a great place by the way you get all bent out of shape , I more then admit there is to much gun violence in the states however the point is your fair country has its own problems .. such as there emmisions of green house gas being double what any other country is which directly effects global warming . http://www.smh.com.au/news/environment/australias-emissions-…
and I earn enough to pay for my food as well ,as well as the 4.00 per gallon gas that is coming but thats not the point .. DUH
note to self: pee on the surface of sebage lake...
If anyone's Poland Spring water tastes funny, you'll know who to blame. On a side note, one of my workers was eating an egg salad sandwhich from Tim Horton's and bit into a metal screw. Almost chipped a tooth. They gave him a five dollar gift certificate. Cheap bastards.
The lake we get our water from is 29,000 acres and 316 feet deep. Poland Spring water uses the same aquifier. What you'll pay $1.79 a liter for, I get out of the tap. They did a study last year when some "conservationists" were concerned that Poland Spring, which is owned by Nestles, was taking too much water out of the springs. Then it was determined that the amount they bottled and sold amounted to 3/4 of an inch off the top of Sebago Lake. There's so much water in that lake it would be impossible to make even a dent in it.
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note to self: pee on the surface of sebage lake...
HEY-OH!
Canada has so much water I pour the stuff down the drain and spray it haphazardly all over my lawn.
QUOTE(closeup)
If anyone's Poland Spring water tastes funny, you'll know who to blame. On a side note, one of my workers was eating an egg salad sandwhich from Tim Horton's and bit into a metal screw. Almost chipped a tooth. They gave him a five dollar gift certificate. Cheap bastards.
he's lucky. if i worked there I would have made him pay for the screw.
If anyone's Poland Spring water tastes funny, you'll know who to blame. On a side note, one of my workers was eating an egg salad sandwhich from Tim Horton's and bit into a metal screw. Almost chipped a tooth. They gave him a five dollar gift certificate. Cheap bastards.
it all , you yourself have quoted global warming in a another thread .. dont take it personal .. geez
