Yes Issac I know his buddy already does one part of the shop he does dents, no they sell nothing.

They fix dents and my husband would manage fixing paint repairs and chips that is what he does now.

Alone with no employes just himself he made 99 thousand for the year 89 after deductions and that was with no employees here they would have 16 for paint alone.

The guy who does dents is averaging 100 cars a day with all the employees and stuff and all the cars with the dents have paint repairs as well, the car rental places on the specific island are willing to go into a contract with the dent guy to do the whole shabang. He would need Ian though to do the Paint side and run all that.

I am not much into the know how on all that, this is why I don't work in our business I would be a good PR person so Ian tries explaining it to me as simply as he can but with his buddy they been crunching the numbers and stuff for 2 days now.

When we move to CO he was moving into RV's cause the potential there is about 20 g's a month. and the cost out each month is about 700 a month. right now he can pull in 10 g's on a nice weather month and dish out 500 in supplies and since here he has no employees that is all he is spending. We pay about 400 a month for health insurance.

Trust me I am no sitting here talking out of my ass trying to make shit up for attention or anything, I was seriously wanting to know about living in HI and stuff take away the money part cause that wouldn't be the issues, I would love to visit but I am very on edge about living there but he just called me again and he said it would be 2 possibly 3 years max.

I don't think anyone is accusing you of making anything up. Just from my experience in business, though, the numbers don't sound quite right. I have had friends in that specific business and those are some optimistic-sounding numbers (other costs are rental of facilities, equipment, consumables/paints/solvents). I think we are concerned that you might ship on over there and be left in a situation where your kind of stuck.

Why did your husband decide to go out of state to do this if he was doing such good numbers already in WA? I think Hawaii would (kind of) cancel out the increased revenue with increase profits. You cannot believe what having employees will do to your bottom line (and I don't mean in a positive way). Hawaii has a lot of costs imposed for people who employ other people.

Leaving all the business stuff aside, I cannot possibly think about how living in Hawaii could be a bad thing. Your sons would looooooooooooooooooooooove it.....

Issac I didnt think anyone was accusing me I just didnt want to sound like one of those people we have talked about before ya know.

He hates the weather here he has had a shop before but he never persued retail work all lot work so he cant work in the rain and with WA we get a lot of that, in the winter months he will drop down to like 5,6 a month.

There wont be any suprises for him for working in HI cause his buddy he is partnering up with has lived there his whole life and has run a shop with employees for 17 years now there so he knows about all that.

I know the numbers are high it is shocking what these guys make especially PDR shit PDR can earn you well over 100 grand a year easy and you barely have any outgoing costs you just got to be good at it and keep your dealers or Retail you advertise a lot if that is the route you take. Ians buddy does PDR Ian split a shop with him for a year and his buddy almost topped 200 for the year.

Anyway this field of work is what he does and is around and why we go to Floriday yearly for the conventions, its rare to make it like this and it was one thing I was always pround of him for. Making that much money when he dropped out of school in the 10th grade yet was making 70 a year when he first started at age 23/24 it is sort of sickening if you ask me cause I am busting my ass to go to school and stuff to make half that

Diane,
Take it from someone who was raised on an island in the south seas, lived in California during teenage and young adult years, and made many jaunts to Colorado for sking. Island life is the BEST! HI is absolutely stunning in it's beauty, and all the stories about the locals are WAY over-blown. Once you live there, you become part of the "family". There is absolutely NO contest. Anywhere on Co. is a cold wasteland (eventhough I know there is obvious beauty in the mountain landscapes) compared to the sunshine and tropical beauty of the islands. GO to Hi! Don't fret. You'll love it and wonder how you ever could have even considered anywhere else once you're there.

Thanks Lynette it wouldnt be forever at least that would not be the plan for now we are thinking 2/3 years husband is there right now he comes back Sat. but it seems like he is weighing on it more and more but leaving it up to me.

Ok well no more worries Ian has decided against it.

He said He would love to do it money wise but he doesn't want to partner with his buddy cause he doesn't like the way he manages and all that and says he can't see working with him as partners cause they are two different management types.

He knows he could get the accounts himself if he were to just do it himself since he is the one with all the paint exp and all that but than he would be screwing over his friend by doing that and he isn't gonna do that. His friend is the one that brought him into his territory and had him train his workers and told him about the offer from the Rental agency's and all that so it would be shiesty to go in and do it himself and take it all behind his back. Which I agree no matter how much money can be made.

So he said we will just stick to our CO plans as usual.

Just thought I would update since I wanted advice.

I am relieved not having it put on me. I would love to visit but I really do not want to live there and be that far away from everyone.

usually when friends partner there ends up being trouble , sombody always get screwed , either over money , there share , or a wife or girl friend , I have a good girl friend that i talk to daily that lives in denver and she loves it , I think you will like it out there .. I have some friends that went into together and opened 3 chyropractic clinics in ohio they were making like big $$$ till one found out the other was skimming to support his gambling habit , If I were starting again I would still be a loner and do it myself and just hire help .. jsut my 2 cents worth

Yeah the husband said if he could do it himself without screwing his friend out of it than he would do it but not if it means stabbing him in the back,

I was partnered with my brother for a few yrs , and finnally bought him out just cause it was getting to be headache for me ot send him everything to be signed , as he lives in chicago . but I hope whatever you and your hubby decide it works out for the best

It will we are gonna stick to the original plan and go to Colorado I cant wait to move to CO he now has his business here sold which is what we were stressing so now we need to sell the house I am hoping to get it on the market by 2 weeks and we are in a prime location so hopefully it goes quick.

Coupla things to consider. First, not being a native, you will be on the outside looking in...for everything. Housing prices are out of this world. If you are a native, you get first crack at everything. if you're not, you get shit. That means shit housing, not welcome in any stores, etc.

Just my $.02

LOL read my last few posts my friend. We are gonna stick to CO.