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C Cup

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▫ Sep 20 2013, 13:55 Post #21

QUOTE(5thattempt)

Just to be the one person to say otherwise (even though I have smoked a lot in the past), I'd say F* no to legalizing it for one reason....testing. There is no clear way to test for it given the time it stays in your system. Ever driving stoned before? Worse than alcohol. The first car accident where people are stoned and a few get killed will see it overturned.
I think it is the primary reason you can't legalize it anyway. The other thing is psychosis....believe it or not quite a few people commit suicide on it.

I believe that is the only reason it hasn't been legalized in all states. ...for alcohol there is the breathalizer and blood test but for pot nothing...

C Cup

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▫ Sep 20 2013, 15:06 Post #22

I read somewhere they either have already or are working on a finger prick that reads out a number like a breathalyzer.
It has nothing to do with the law...it has to do with pharmaceutical lobbies not being able to profit from it and losing customers from patented drugs like marinol....and also lawyers who make shit tons of money off of stupid people who don't know how to safely partake...and ignorant people who believe 20th century propaganda...the government who is notorious for....well I won't go into that....
Just know.....it has NOTHING to do with the plant itself....

As long as more and more medical and psychological research NOT funded by the NIH/NIMH keep coming out consistently disproving uninformed and biased stereotypes...hope is just over the horizon for people suffering from countless diseases and illnesses that are currently unable to receive relief from modern day poisons...

Ps.... driving "stoned" is a lot more safe than driving drunk...let's forgo the antiquated thinking, shall we?

Double D's

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▫ Sep 20 2013, 16:06 Post #23

QUOTE(SophZ3)

I read somewhere they either have already or are working on a finger prick that reads out a number like a breathalyzer.
It has nothing to do with the law...it has to do with pharmaceutical lobbies not being able to profit from it and losing customers from patented drugs like marinol....and also lawyers who make shit tons of money off of stupid people who don't know how to safely partake...and ignorant people who believe 20th century propaganda...the government who is notorious for....well I won't go into that....
Just know.....it has NOTHING to do with the plant itself....

As long as more and more medical and psychological research NOT funded by the NIH/NIMH keep coming out consistently disproving uninformed and biased stereotypes...hope is just over the horizon for people suffering from countless diseases and illnesses that are currently unable to receive relief from modern day poisons...

Ps.... driving "stoned" is a lot more safe than driving drunk...let's forgo the antiquated thinking, shall we?

I am hoping that momentum builds for legalizing/decriminalizing pot in the same way that it is building for gay marriage.

Double D's

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▫ Sep 20 2013, 22:59 Post #24

Doesn't matter to me. Never touched the stuff, never will.

B Cup

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▫ Sep 20 2013, 23:51 Post #25

QUOTE(me gusta)

The first year Colorado legalized it they brung in over 2 million in tax revenue. ..

holy shit! 2 million

B Cup

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▫ Sep 21 2013, 02:52 Post #26

QUOTE(SophZ3)

I read somewhere they either have already or are working on a finger prick that reads out a number like a breathalyzer.
It has nothing to do with the law...it has to do with pharmaceutical lobbies not being able to profit from it and losing customers from patented drugs like marinol....and also lawyers who make shit tons of money off of stupid people who don't know how to safely partake...and ignorant people who believe 20th century propaganda...the government who is notorious for....well I won't go into that....
Just know.....it has NOTHING to do with the plant itself....

As long as more and more medical and psychological research NOT funded by the NIH/NIMH keep coming out consistently disproving uninformed and biased stereotypes...hope is just over the horizon for people suffering from countless diseases and illnesses that are currently unable to receive relief from modern day poisons...

Ps.... driving "stoned" is a lot more safe than driving drunk...let's forgo the antiquated thinking, shall we?

Its fine to have an opinion Soph, just ease up on the name calling. We never got into qualifications or experience, so you have limit info to call my thinking antiquated don't you think?

C Cup

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▫ Sep 21 2013, 03:06 Post #27

QUOTE(5thattempt)

Its fine to have an opinion Soph, just ease up on the name calling. We never got into qualifications or experience, so you have limit info to call my thinking antiquated don't you think?

Did I say "you, 5thattempt are a _____"??? No I did not....
We could get into qualifications if you like :whatever:

:whatever:

"Antiquated thinking" does not equal name calling....It is what it is....

Also...I'd like to know the sources for which you've declared that stoned driving is worse than drunk driving...evidence/empiricle research...as in....not your own youthful adventures....

By your logic....alcohol should be the most illegal and deadly product in all human history...

Double D's

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▫ Sep 21 2013, 04:56 Post #28

QUOTE(SophZ3)

Did I say "you, 5thattempt are a _____"??? No I did not....
We could get into qualifications if you like :whatever:

:whatever:

"Antiquated thinking" does not equal name calling....It is what it is....

Also...I'd like to know the sources for which you've declared that stoned driving is worse than drunk driving...evidence/empiricle research...as in....not your own youthful adventures....

By your logic....alcohol should be the most illegal and deadly product in all human history...

I think the main underlying question here is what is good public policy in regard to drugs, especially marijuana. The so called War on Drugs, especially marijuana has and will continue to be a dismal failure that has resulted in ruining many people's lives. Other illegal drugs should be dealt with primarily as public health issues. Whether one uses marijuana or not should be a personal choice. I am wary of driving on marijuana. When I have done so, I felt that I had been somewhat impaired and I won't do it again- just like I won't talk on a cell phone or text when driving.

C Cup

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▫ Sep 21 2013, 15:03 Post #29

QUOTE(somfan)

I think the main underlying question here is what is good public policy in regard to drugs, especially marijuana. The so called War on Drugs, especially marijuana has and will continue to be a dismal failure that has resulted in ruining many people's lives. Other illegal drugs should be dealt with primarily as public health issues. Whether one uses marijuana or not should be a personal choice. I am wary of driving on marijuana. When I have done so, I felt that I had been somewhat impaired and I won't do it again- just like I won't talk on a cell phone or text when driving.

The "war on drugs" was a very ill-conceived political farce that was only semi-relevant in the absence of modern science. Epic failure is putting it kindly... If people want to get high off their ass, there are so many "technically legal" ways to do it I can't even think of them all this early in the AM lol
Until they can manage/obliterate Rx drug abuse, alcoholism, and rampant overdose deaths from deadly illicit drugs, I really don't care to hear any nonsense about how dangerous cannibis is...it's just simply not...

Melon Master

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▫ Sep 21 2013, 16:38 Post #30

I think any form of driving while impaired or distracted is a bad thing , from drinking , drugs , texting , phone, ipods . Any of these and others can cause a person to wreck or worse yet cause a wreck . I don't think anyone can argue that , there is just to much proof in the media today .

C Cup

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▫ Sep 21 2013, 19:31 Post #31

QUOTE(ddd35)

I think any form of driving while impaired or distracted is a bad thing , from drinking , drugs , texting , phone, ipods . Any of these and others can cause a person to wreck or worse yet cause a wreck . I don't think anyone can argue that , there is just to much proof in the media today .

I agree. Maybe we should go back to 1800s times where the fastest you could go by carriage was 30mph...... :ph34r:

:ph34r:

I've seen so many stupid people driving down the road doing all sorts of ridiculous and dangerous things:
-reading 50 shades of grey
-overfilling vehicles with double the bodies as there are seatbelts
-eating double cheeseburgers with both hands
-beating unbelted children from the front seat
-smoking cigs with one hand and sipping Starbucks with the other
-shaving face and/or legs
-743 dogs flying all over the car
-drinking a 40 while leaving the liquor store lol
-senile geriatrics going the wrong direction
-etc etc etc I could go on forever

Driving PERIOD isn't safe! Whether by your own mistakes or other people's....
Can't outlaw driving bc some people can't do it right can we?

Melon Master

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▫ Sep 21 2013, 19:41 Post #32

QUOTE(SophZ3)

I agree. Maybe we should go back to 1800s times where the fastest you could go by carriage was 30mph...... :ph34r:

:ph34r:

I've seen so many stupid people driving down the road doing all sorts of ridiculous and dangerous things:
-reading 50 shades of grey
-overfilling vehicles with double the bodies as there are seatbelts
-eating double cheeseburgers with both hands
-beating unbelted children from the front seat
-smoking cigs with one hand and sipping Starbucks with the other
-shaving face and/or legs
-743 dogs flying all over the car
-drinking a 40 while leaving the liquor store lol
-senile geriatrics going the wrong direction
-etc etc etc I could go on forever

Driving PERIOD isn't safe! Whether by your own mistakes or other people's....
Can't outlaw driving bc some people can't do it right can we?

You make my point , yes there are so many stupid things that people do while they drive it is truly scary , hell just yesterday we had a guy sleeping while driving crossed the center line hit a hubby and wife and sent her to the hospital . Now why would anybody sleep @ 2 in the afternoon ? I guess maybe he could have been coming down who really knows . the rumor was he was drunk , Not the case just to long a day at work .
And By the way I still have a horse Drawn Carriage and sleigh so I could go back to the early day if I had to .

C Cup

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▫ Sep 21 2013, 20:06 Post #33

QUOTE(ddd35)

You make my point , yes there are so many stupid things that people do while they drive it is truly scary , hell just yesterday we had a guy sleeping while driving crossed the center line hit a hubby and wife and sent her to the hospital . Now why would anybody sleep @ 2 in the afternoon ? I guess maybe he could have been coming down who really knows . the rumor was he was drunk , Not the case just to long a day at work .
And By the way I still have a horse Drawn Carriage and sleigh so I could go back to the early day if I had to .

That's awesome. Come pick me up!! LOL

Melon Master

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▫ Sep 21 2013, 20:07 Post #34

QUOTE(SophZ3)

That's awesome. Come pick me up!! LOL

Might take me a few doll

C Cup

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▫ Sep 21 2013, 20:22 Post #35

QUOTE(ddd35)

Might take me a few doll

Pony Express it!!! :spankin:

:spankin:

Melon Master

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▫ Sep 21 2013, 20:23 Post #36

QUOTE(SophZ3)

Pony Express it!!! :spankin:

:spankin:

LOL Ill get right on that

:nahnah:

C Cup

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▫ Sep 22 2013, 00:29 Post #37

QUOTE(ddd35)

LOL Ill get right on that

:nahnah:

Yo.....I'm still waiting!!!!! It's getting dark and I'm about to get mommy-napped!!!!!! LOL!!!

Melon Master

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▫ Sep 23 2013, 11:21 Post #38

QUOTE(SophZ3)

Yo.....I'm still waiting!!!!! It's getting dark and I'm about to get mommy-napped!!!!!! LOL!!!

Oh No , don't want that to happen , Im hurrying but My horse took a wrong turn going thru Missouri

Training Bra

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▫ Sep 25 2013, 23:32 Post #39

Legalise it! Note: it does not cause mental instabilities, although it can indeed trigger underlying issues.

B Cup

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▫ Sep 26 2013, 00:04 Post #40

QUOTE(natraltits)

Legalise it! Note: it does not cause mental instabilities, although it can indeed trigger underlying issues.

I think they should legalise it already, people are gunna smoke it anywayz, why not earn sum tax on it instead of letting criminall gangs profit. I have a friend with fibromyalgia n she is in constant pain, wish it was legal for her to get sum releif without popping pills.

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