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▫ Sep 8 2006, 03:33 Post #21
QUOTE(lalala)


A touching clip that encompasulates everything Irwin was about

QUOTE(COMEDYMAN)
Hate that he passed... but i agree he did die what he loved doing in life.

and the trouble with wikipedia is that its user submitted info.. hard to believe that Jackie Chan is an Aussie citizen :lol:


Ditto on both counts their Comedy

Denyse... I could not disagree with you more. Would you like to watch the demise of your father, brother, son,husband, cousin, uncle or friend on film? Only those with slightly sick and tiwsted minds would like to see such footage. His manager who was on the shoot with him is the sole owner of ALL Steve Irwin footage and he has vowed that whilst he is alive that footage will never see the light of day, and thank god. Have some respect
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▫ Sep 8 2006, 08:10 Post #22
QUOTE(bondiguy)
A touching clip that encompasulates everything Irwin was about
Ditto on both counts their Comedy

Denyse... I could not disagree with you more. Would you like to watch the demise of your father, brother, son,husband, cousin, uncle or friend on film? Only those with slightly sick and tiwsted minds would like to see such footage. His manager who was on the shoot with him is the sole owner of ALL Steve Irwin footage and he has vowed that whilst he is alive that footage will never see the light of day, and thank god. Have some respect


actually, steve was quoted to have saying that if he was killed he'd want it on tape.

now, if he actually still wants thats now and if others want to is a totally diff thing.
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▫ Sep 8 2006, 21:44 Post #23
QUOTE(lalala)
actually, steve was quoted to have saying that if he was killed he'd want it on tape.

now, if he actually still wants thats now and if others want to is a totally diff thing.


What he did say was that if he was filming a Doco and was killed or attacked whilst on the shoot he would not want the cameras to stop rolling... he did not say let's broadcast my demise to billions around the world.

I hope that when you pass away you are afforded with more respect than you give to others
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▫ Sep 8 2006, 22:22 Post #24
QUOTE(bondiguy)
What he did say was that if he was filming a Doco and was killed or attacked whilst on the shoot he would not want the cameras to stop rolling... he did not say let's broadcast my demise to billions around the world.

I hope that when you pass away you are afforded with more respect than you give to others


i agree
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▫ Sep 8 2006, 23:14 Post #25
In the sun newspaper it said the footage would never become available and wouldn't be shown, then the next day it said his family have asked for it to be shown because it is what he would have wanted, macabre or not, who can argue with his and therefore his families wishes.

Michael.
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▫ Sep 8 2006, 23:20 Post #26
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In the sun newspaper it said the footage would never become available and wouldn't be shown, then the next day it said his family have asked for it to be shown because it is what he would have wanted, macabre or not, who can argue with his and therefore his families wishes.

Michael.


I had not read yet that his family ask for the footage to be released... I find that very interesting

Ultimately his family do not own the footage so it is really a decision for his manager
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▫ Sep 8 2006, 23:43 Post #27
dont really know, i would have thought it would be the owners of the film, and did he not produce his own films/tv shows, maybe the family "technically" own the footage.
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▫ Sep 9 2006, 00:09 Post #28
Bondi, I never meant use it in a macabre generate high ratings way, I meant that it if it were to be shown, it should be in a responsible manner, in an educational manner.

And yes, if it had happened to be my family member and they had previously expressed a desire that footage of their death be used to responsibly educate people about the dangers of what they did with their life, then I would be willing to uphold their wishes and ensure that the footage was used in such a manner. That's not to say that it should be shown right now whilst interest in his death is still very high, that would be exploiting the footage, which is not what it should be used for.

There is a vast difference between what your average tabloid media editor and a responsible documentary maker would use the footage for, and it should be used for education, not exploitatively, as we frequently see with all news footage these days.
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▫ Sep 9 2006, 01:47 Post #29
QUOTE(denyse)
Bondi, I never meant use it in a macabre generate high ratings way, I meant that it if it were to be shown, it should be in a responsible manner, in an educational manner.

And yes, if it had happened to be my family member and they had previously expressed a desire that footage of their death be used to responsibly educate people about the dangers of what they did with their life, then I would be willing to uphold their wishes and ensure that the footage was used in such a manner.  That's not to say that it should be shown right now whilst interest in his death is still very high, that would be exploiting the footage, which is not what it should be used for.

There is a vast difference between what your average tabloid media editor and a responsible documentary maker would use the footage for, and it should be used for education, not exploitatively, as we frequently see with all news footage these days.


Agreed!

Also BigMichael I saw an interview with his manager who's production company own EVERY second of footage shot by and for Irwin and he has said the footage will never make the light of day. SO without some dramatic change of heart I dare say it's case closed
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▫ Sep 9 2006, 18:02 Post #30
QUOTE(bondiguy)
Agreed!

Also BigMichael I saw an interview with his manager who's production company own EVERY second of footage shot by and for Irwin and he has said the footage will never make the light of day. SO without some dramatic change of heart I dare say it's case closed


I dont follow ausiie news at all , but Im guessing if the family decides that it should be shown , could it be a matter for the courts to decide ? I guarantee here in the states ther would be about 6 lawyers lining up to take on either side of this case and there would be millions either spent or won before the case was done , and then some tabloid would send in a plant and steel the tape anyway and pirate it . Its not a matter of whats right and whats wrong its about the Money here in the state anyway ...
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▫ Sep 11 2006, 07:10 Post #31
QUOTE(ddd35)
I dont follow ausiie news   at all , but  Im guessing if the family decides that it should  be shown , could it be a matter for the courts to decide  ? I guarantee  here in the states  ther would be about 6 lawyers lining up  to take on either side of this case  and there would be millions either spent or won  before the case was done  , and then some tabloid would send in a plant  and steel the tape anyway and pirate it  .  Its not a matter of whats right and whats wrong  its about the Money here in the state anyway  ...


They family could battle in the courts and waste as much money as they wanted to (although highly unlikely) but his manager is the sole rights holder to all his footage... no two ways about it, end of story! He would have to green light the footage release

It is like Nirvana. Dave and Krist fucking played in the band but because of Cunteny Love who is the majority owner of all things Nirvana they can not release shit without her blessing.... and she is a physco hose beast
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▫ Sep 14 2006, 15:52 Post #32
QUOTE(bondiguy)
They family could battle in the courts and waste as much money as they wanted to (although highly unlikely) but his manager is the sole rights holder to all his footage... no two ways about it, end of story! He would have to green light the footage release

It is like Nirvana. Dave and Krist fucking played in the band but because of Cunteny Love who is the majority owner of all things Nirvana they can not release shit without her blessing.... and she is a physco hose beast

The problem I see at least in the states , the tabloid will offer MIllions for that kind of reality footage , it sells , fact is its just like when Princess D died in a car crash the photgrapher that caught that on tape was a instant millionare . Its a sad state of things in the world when it comes to that , but the fact is people like to see the blood and guts and gorry things in life , Not saying its right but its the state of things ... :)
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▫ Sep 15 2006, 04:42 Post #33
QUOTE(ddd35)
The problem  I see  at least in the states , the tabloid will offer  MIllions  for that kind of reality  footage , it sells , fact is its just like when Princess D  died in a car crash  the  photgrapher that caught that on tape was a instant millionare . Its a sad state  of things  in the world when it comes to that , but the fact is people like to see the blood and guts and gorry things in life , Not saying its right  but its the state of things  ...   :)


Mate I know, we are an ever increasing society of voyeurs. The point of difference is that (sorry of generalising) but Aussies aren't as greedy as Americans. Steve's manager was a close personal friend and I dont think he wil "sell out" unless steve's family urge him to release the footage

The Doco Steve was shooting is being finished off by his team and will no doubt be released sans the death footage
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▫ Sep 15 2006, 10:54 Post #34
QUOTE(bondiguy)
Mate I know, we are an ever increasing society of voyeurs. The point of difference is that (sorry of generalising) but Aussies aren't as greedy as Americans. Steve's manager was a close personal friend and I dont think he wil "sell out" unless steve's family urge him to release the footage

The Doco Steve was shooting is being finished off by his team and will no doubt be released sans the death footage

thats cool , never been to your great country , and I mean that in the sense that it was said , I visited canada a few yrs ago and the people I met there , I firmly believe they have that same mentality , its just not that way here in the states , its sad really here its who dies with the most toys wins , Why ? I have no idea but there is great aurguments over money here .. :crazydude:
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▫ Sep 15 2006, 21:36 Post #35
Likewise 3d, I have met some great Americans... hell I met alot of them because I live in a suburb that is highly populated by tourists in summer, and 80% of them are cool

but the states have the unshakeable tag of being materialistic and it is very very sad
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